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Oh Poor Tom... the truth hurts don't it?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:28 am    Post subject: Re: Oh Poor Tom... the truth hurts don't it? Reply with quote

Alex <akaufmann@nyc.NOSPAM.rr.com> wrote in
news:C29CB592.109D01%akaufmann@nyc.NOSPAM.rr.com:

Quote:
in article RdCdnUtBZpeCHOvbnZ2dnUVZ_r-onZ2d@adelphia.com, Tom Vizzini
at Tom@essential-skills.com wrote on 6/18/07 8:58 AM:

So let me get back to seeing why I can't get my killfile to keep you
out. I must say that these groups are much better once you filter you
out of them.

So let's see...

Tom uses voice recognition software with a serious and well-known
grammatical error and chooses not to correct it.

He also seems incapable of properly setting up a killfile and
congenitally incapable of letting anyone else have the last word.

These are not attractive traits to display in advertising a product
aimed at people looking to improve themselves.



I have to assume that tommy figures his target audience is so in need of
help that they will not recognize what he is doing.
After all, HE thinks USENET is a viable advertising medium.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:30 am    Post subject: Re: Oh Poor Tom... the truth hurts don't it? Reply with quote

"Odious" <Odious@cox.net.nospam> wrote in
news:wJHdi.523326$6P2.92063@newsfe16.phx:

Quote:

"John C. Randolph" <jcr.nospam@nospam.mac.com> wrote in message
news:2007061819473375249-jcrnospam@nospammaccom...
On 2007-06-18 19:29:20 -0700, "HeeroYuy" <h@h.h> said:


"Alex" <akaufmann@nyc.NOSPAM.rr.com> wrote in message
news:C29CB592.109D01%akaufmann@nyc.NOSPAM.rr.com...
in article RdCdnUtBZpeCHOvbnZ2dnUVZ_r-onZ2d@adelphia.com, Tom
Vizzini at Tom@essential-skills.com wrote on 6/18/07 8:58 AM:

So let me get back to seeing why I can't get my killfile to keep
you out. I
must say that these groups are much better once you filter you out
of them.

So let's see...

Tom uses voice recognition software with a serious and well-known
grammatical error and chooses not to correct it.

He also seems incapable of properly setting up a killfile and
congenitally
incapable of letting anyone else have the last word.

These are not attractive traits to display in advertising a product
aimed at
people looking to improve themselves.

I was willing to accept that HellBrat and gnr were the exception to
3D Mind's supposed success, not the rule. That is, until Tom started
behaving as badly as them.

I would expect the similarities in their behavior (not to mention
their spelling and grammatical errors) to increase over time, as
Vizzini gets more frustrated and less careful.

And apparently Unkah used to post from Tom's domain.

"UnKaH" monsterbaby@essential-skills.com

Odd, ain't it.

Especialy when one of the claims made when posting from that domain
was.... _________________________________________________
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.psychology.nlp/msg/5c02f96c9de3f7e9?
dmode=source&hl=en

Fact Five: 3-D Mind is scientifically sound, based on scientific data
supplied by a man who's worked in the brain research business for
better than 20 years and is currently working for John Hopkins, doing
the exact same thing.
_________________________________________________




sounds real familiar, don't it.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:33 am    Post subject: Re: Oh Poor Tom... the truth hurts don't it? Reply with quote

Ted E Bear wrote in news:1182202541_13273@sp6iad.superfeed.net:

Quote:
Ever see me endorse any product speeding? EVER?

Yes. Repeatedly.

Quote:
Thank you....dismissed

You and Gordo Kooksuits. Both easily dismissed and both totally
incomprehensible.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:52 am    Post subject: Re: Oh Poor Tom... the truth hurts don't it? Reply with quote

On Jun 18, 5:17 pm, "ZFORCE" <e...@no.ok> wrote:
Quote:
"Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in messagenews:iYudnS9QPaHCDevbnZ2dnUVZ_oSnnZ2d@pghconnect.com...





Didn't Odiot used to endorse Tom?

Like when ROSS endorsed Tom?

The response patterns to Tom's posts look almost exactly like the ones
to
mine, from the same half-dozen people no less.

As scary as it is....I have to agree with Ray.

Try the Jimmy Swaggart version next time:

"I have ::::::sob::::::::: sinned against youuuuu, My Lord
::::::::::sob::::::::::," but I agree with Ray.

I should note that the exception to the pattern is that in the past, Tom
used to post to me much like the other half-dozen.

Maybe it's an NLP thing. Just seems pretty fickle, and predictable.

But what would Bat Man do????- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Perhaps get an extra bedroom?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:04 am    Post subject: Re: Oh Poor Tom... the truth hurts don't it? Reply with quote

Quote:
What's more telling is the near-identical circumstances under which a
half-dozen people are acting, identically.

Someone spams bullshit and people call them on it....

What Tom posts hasn't substantially changed in years.

What has changed is that first, Ross suddenly disliked him, and then, just
as suddenly, the same 6-10 people who flame most every post of mine suddenly
started behaving in the exact same manner towards Tom.


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welcome witnesses. In fact, they come to believe the witness causes the
trouble."

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:04 am    Post subject: Re: Oh Poor Tom... the truth hurts don't it? Reply with quote

Quote:
Like when ROSS endorsed Tom?

The response patterns to Tom's posts look almost exactly like the ones to
mine, from the same half-dozen people no less.

So what, now we have two spamming idiots instead of just one.

We have 6-10 people calling the same two people "spamming idiots" and the
two people just happen to be disliked by the same competitor to both of the
targets. In one case, Tom's, posts like this never were directed at him
until he ran afoul of said guru.

These folks used to speak very highly of Tom, in fact, and he has changed
little since then.

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Ray Gordon
The Club Hypno Message Boards. Totally NEUTRAL discussion of sexy hypnosis!
http://cybersheet.com/eve/forums/a/cfrm/f/4321015313

"When people are engaged in something they are not proud of, they do not
welcome witnesses. In fact, they come to believe the witness causes the
trouble."

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Oh Poor Tom... the truth hurts don't it? Reply with quote

Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote in
news:ZfadnQHLNaTC5-rbnZ2dnUVZ_tyinZ2d@pghconnect.com:

Quote:
What's more telling is the near-identical circumstances under which
a half-dozen people are acting, identically.

Someone spams bullshit and people call them on it....

What Tom posts hasn't substantially changed in years.

What has changed is that first, Ross suddenly disliked him, and then,
just as suddenly, the same 6-10 people who flame most every post of
mine suddenly started behaving in the exact same manner towards Tom.


Marketeering Handbook

Rule #1:
Anyone that does not agree with the Marketeers must, by default, be
defending the opponents of the Marketeers.

Correlary:
Anyone that defends the opponents of the Marketeers must, by default, be
in complete agreement with the opponents of the Marketeers.

Addition to the Correlary:
Anyone that is in agreement with the opponents of the Marketeers must, by
default, be working for a company that is in direct competition with the
Marketeer's company. They must be Ray. Or Tom. Or anyone that advertises
against Fast Seduction.






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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Oh Poor Tom... the truth hurts don't it? Reply with quote

Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote in
news:L-KdndLVg4dG5-rbnZ2dnUVZ_hmtnZ2d@pghconnect.com:

Quote:
Like when ROSS endorsed Tom?

The response patterns to Tom's posts look almost exactly like the
ones to mine, from the same half-dozen people no less.

So what, now we have two spamming idiots instead of just one.

We have 6-10 people calling the same two people "spamming idiots" and
the two people just happen to be disliked by the same competitor to
both of the targets. In one case, Tom's, posts like this never were
directed at him until he ran afoul of said guru.

These folks used to speak very highly of Tom, in fact, and he has
changed little since then.


Marketeering Handbook

Rule #1:
Anyone that does not agree with the Marketeers must, by default, be
defending the opponents of the Marketeers.

Correlary:
Anyone that defends the opponents of the Marketeers must, by default, be
in complete agreement with the opponents of the Marketeers.

Addition to the Correlary:
Anyone that is in agreement with the opponents of the Marketeers must, by
default, be working for a company that is in direct competition with the
Marketeer's company. They must be Ray. Or Tom. Or anyone that advertises
against Fast Seduction.





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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Oh Poor Tom... the truth hurts don't it? Reply with quote

On 18-Jun-2007, Alex <akaufmann@nyc.NOSPAM.rr.com> wrote:

Quote:
These are not attractive traits to display in advertising a product aimed
at
people looking to improve themselves.

I did point out to the dumb ass that 90% or more of the flak he receives
will be from this group, and it too will be cross posted as his original
message was. He's too lazy to post individually, so his crossposting habits
will ruin him in all the groups, just because he posts here. Stubborn isn't
he?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Oh Poor Tom... the truth hurts don't it? Reply with quote

On 19-Jun-2007, "Ray Gordon, Deadbeat" <ray@cybersheet.com> wrote:

Quote:
What Tom posts hasn't substantially changed in years.

What has changed is that first, Ross suddenly disliked him, and then, just
as suddenly, the same 6-10 people who flame most every post of mine
suddenly started behaving in the exact same manner towards Tom.

He was an asshole then, and he's an asshole now, Ross has nothing to do with
it..

So when are you going to pony up the $102 to Formhandle? and Thom, and the
rest of the people you have tried to scam in the courts?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Oh Poor Tom... the truth hurts don't it? Reply with quote

Name the product I have endorsed.....

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Oh Poor Tom... the truth hurts don't it? Reply with quote

"Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" <ray@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
news:ZfadnQHLNaTC5-rbnZ2dnUVZ_tyinZ2d@pghconnect.com...
Quote:
What's more telling is the near-identical circumstances under which a
half-dozen people are acting, identically.

Someone spams bullshit and people call them on it....

What Tom posts hasn't substantially changed in years.

What has changed is that first, Ross suddenly disliked him, and then, just
as suddenly, the same 6-10 people who flame most every post of mine
suddenly started behaving in the exact same manner towards Tom.

Wow you're stupid. The animosity between Ross and Tom is not new.

The only thing that changed is Tom started crossposting his near daily spam
from the psych and hyposis groups to ASF and caught the attention of the
same people who call you on your bullshit in your spam.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Oh Poor Tom... the truth hurts don't it? Reply with quote

"Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" <ray@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
news:L-KdndLVg4dG5-rbnZ2dnUVZ_hmtnZ2d@pghconnect.com...
Quote:
Like when ROSS endorsed Tom?

The response patterns to Tom's posts look almost exactly like the ones
to
mine, from the same half-dozen people no less.

So what, now we have two spamming idiots instead of just one.

We have 6-10 people calling the same two people "spamming idiots"

Both of which are spamming idiots.

and the
Quote:
two people just happen to be disliked by the same competitor to both of
the targets.

Again gordo, you're competition for nobody, because you're producs are a
failure and a joke.... you can't even give them away.

Quote:
In one case, Tom's, posts like this never were directed at him until he
ran afoul of said guru.


Really, gordo... and care to say exactly when Tom ran afoul of Ross?

Because last time I checked that shit happened like 2 or 3 years ago.

Tom just started ramping up his spam to ASF a few months ago.


Quote:
These folks used to speak very highly of Tom, in fact, and he has changed
little since then.


Other than becoming a prolific spammer.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Oh Poor Tom... the truth hurts don't it? Reply with quote

the gordy loser, creator of skid marks in his under roos, whined:

Quote:

These folks used to speak very highly of Tom, in fact, and he has
changed little since then.



Let's see - I'm calling tommy baybee on his bullshit posts...
I NEVER used to speak very highly of tommy baybee...

Once again the gordy loser is lying to further his current agenda.

Tell me, gordy roy, don't you EVER get tired of making yourself look
stupid in public?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Oh Poor Tom... the truth hurts don't it? Reply with quote

On Jun 19, 9:30 am, "Ted E Bear" <Teddyb...@johndoes.org> wrote:

Quote:

He was an asshole then, and he's an asshole now, Ross has nothing to do with
it..

Boy Tedy, your a real dumbass by no stretch of the imagination. Tom is
an asshole, he himself will tell you he's an asshole, but does he
care, no. The point you seemingly refuse to see is that once the "
ahem" friendship with ross dissolved, then the attacks by the dee dee
dee club started, the same morons who attack Ray, why because of the
simple fact, ross the almighty is displeased and hell has no fury like
a dimwit god displeased. So the boys of the fudge packing company
decided to go on the rampage to please the demented ego of said god.

This isn't that hard to see, I mean come on, any one with the iq of a
dimwit can see this.

UnKaH
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